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Q ~ How much BG is needed to run an engine?

When using gasoline, we’re ‘consuming’ > 2 BTU per power stroke.  (Assuming a 140 ci engine, running 500 rpm at idle and consuming 0.3 US gal per hour.)(Assuming gasoline at 114,000 BTU/gal).(500*60)/2 = 15,000 power strokes per hour.  (114,000 * 0.3) / 15,000 = 2.28 BTU per power stroke.
Is it practical to use water for fuel when hydrogen has very little BTU per volume?  Assuming we were using BG (HHO) as a fuel (instead of a catalyst), how much BG would we need to use to get the same power?
Note: Read this blog, about the 14.7:1 air:fuel mixture LIE to understand that you do not need 2+ BTU of gasoline per power stroke to power the engine (even at idle).
As for hydrogen, I personally idled a 140 ci engine (in my 1974 Vega) at 500 rpm using an electrolyzer capable of 3000 liters per hour of Brown’s Gas (see my Brown’s Gas video 2).  It idled beautifully!
The Math:
Givens:Hydrogen has about 9.54 BTU per US-STP liter.http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_btu_in_one_litre_of_hydrogen0.08988 grams per literhttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hydrogen(= 0.000198 lb)http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/grams-to-pounds.htm
In an hour the engine would have pumped 850 cubic feet of air = 68.65 lbs.  
BG contains 2 atoms of hydrogen for every atom of oxygen, so 3000 liters of BG is 2000 liters of hydrogen.  Hydrogen weighs 0.000198 lb per liter so 2000 liters weighs 0.396 lbs.
Thus, (assuming I was using the full 3000 L/hr) my ACTUAL air:hydrogen fuel ratio was 173.36:1 and I only needed 50 liters per minute to idle the engine.
Using hydrogen BTU as a ‘guide’, Brown’s Gas contains at least = 280 BTU/F3 = ~ 10 BTU/liter.50 liters/minute * 10 BTU/liter = 500 BTU/minute 500 rpm means 250 power strokes; so I was using (500 / 250) 2 BTU of BG per power stroke.
When I do the experiment again I will:1. Measure the actual BG going into the engine.  I’m not sure (at this time) if I was using the full 3000 L/hr.
2. Eliminate the throttle plate.  The throttle is only needed when trying to burn a fluid (gasoline) that must be turned into a vapor to burn.  The vacuum created by the throttle plate helps vaporize the gasoline.  Hydrogen fuel doesn’t need a throttle plate.I have run engines at full power on gasoline vapors with NO throttle plate.  The energy required to make the vacuum (even to idle) is the same as the energy needed to move the vehicle about 35 mph on a level road.  Eliminating the throttle plate would allow me to use LESS fuel.
3. Adjust the ignition timing.  Hydrogen burns really fast.  I did not think to adjust the ignition timing during my experiments shown in Brown’s Gas Video 2 and thus I think that the engine was actually losing power because the combustion was happening too soon (spark too far advanced).  The combustion would have been building too much pressure before top dead center and actually fighting the upward movement of the piston on the compression stroke.  Retarding the timing would have allowed me to use LESS fuel.
In spite of the items above, the engine ran extremely smooth on BG.  I work with fuel systems everyday and have seldom seen a smoother idling engine.  I did not look at the flame in a colortune.
Stoichiometric air/fuel (A/F) ratio for hydrogen and air (based on mass) is calculated:= mass of air/mass of fuel = 137.33 g / 4 g = 34.33:1
Rich to lean air:fuel ratio burn limits for EXTERNAL combustion of hydrogen is 4:1 – 70:1
For INTERNAL combustion, you can run LEANER mixtures than external combustion, due to the combustion constituents being compressed closer together…
even the government allows that hydrogen can burn at 180:1 air:fuel mixture as per… http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/tech_validation/pdfs/fcm03r0.pdfThey state: “Because of hydrogen’s wide range of flammability, hydrogen engines can run on A/F ratios of anywhere from 34:1 (stoichiometric) to 180:1.”  
All that said… Your question was 

“with numbers by BTU ratings I’m not sure there is ANYONE who can produce the 700 liter per min requirement needed to run an engine off straight water please straighten me out on this am i right or wrong ???”

My answer is:
1. Yes, it is possible to run an engine on ‘straight’ Brown’s Gas (aka HHO or BG) and thus ‘run on water’. Anyone can do it, like Denny Klien did (video)… Note: FOX recants original story using mechanics talking bull$hit.
BUT to ‘run an engine on water’ in a practical way, getting the gas volume isn’t enough… Denny Klien did it by using A LOT of electricity from batteries in the trunk, it made enough BG to run the engine BUT you can’t go very far per battery (about 20% of what you could do if you used the batteries to power an electric motor).
That’s why he mainly ran the engine as a ‘hybrid’…Here is proof that BG assists carbon-fuel combustion, and that the FOX mechanics were either ignorant of the facts or just plain acting (lying) for money. (download proof PDF here)
The KEY to REALLY running on water is to make the hydrogen using VERY LITTLE electricity.  Then you could use the engine’s alternator to make enough BG to run the engine.I’ve had experiments spontaneously give extremely high volumes of BG with little electricity (I call it Hyper-Gas) so I believe it is possible, but I don’t know if anyone is doing it reliably or consistently.  I’m 99.9% certain that, over the last 50 years, several people have done itand been suppressed.  For one example, google ” Paul Zigouras suppression “

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Q ~ Brown’s Gas vs HHO

Is there a difference between Brown’s Gas and the HHO gas produced by standard electrolysis?

No, they are essentially identical.  There are many names for Brown’s Gas, as people have attempted to ‘claim’ the gas as their own, usually to try to (inappropriately) patent it to fraud investors; or to ‘distance’ themselves from Brown’s Gas history.
 
I define Brown’s Gas as:
“The entire mixture of gasses coming out of an electrolyzer that is specifically designed to electrolyze (split) water and to NOT separate the resulting gasses from each other.”

 

The only difference between all these ‘names’ is the quality of the gas, how much quantity of Electrically Expanded Water (ExW) is produced.  
https://www.eagle-research.com/browngas/whatisbg/watergas.php
 
The quantity of ExW is determined by many factors and has nothing to do with the ‘name’ of the gas or any particular electrolyzer design.  
https://www.eagle-research.com/cms/faq/12
 
Some electrolyzers are more efficient at making ExW than others, and these show a higher gas production efficiency.  Our electrolyzer technology can now produce BG using less than 1 watthour per STP liter.
 
I do not yet know how to measure the quantity of ExW in BG, but electrolyzers that produce a lot of gas, (overunity by Faraday Law) are certainly making the most ExW.
 

I mean if I would build my own electrolyzer according to your BG brochures, would I get a gas with different qualities that I get from my current, standard electrolyzer?

 
I do not know the efficiency of your current electrolyzer.
 
A higher quantity of ExW will produce more of the ‘special effects’ of BG.

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Q ~ User Account FAQ

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Q ~ Why is the ER HyZor (Basic) kit expensive to ship?

A. Having experienced by many suppression techniques in the past; we are taking extraordinary measures to assure that you actually get your ER HyZor.
The last time we introduced a kit, the postal service of both the USA and Canada ‘lost’ most of the kits.
ER HyZor kits are being sent around the world using a variety of shipping methods, tracking, signature required, insurance and serial # registration to assure that we can know when they go missing and can make someone accountable.
Unfortunately, these costs must get passed onto the customer.

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Q ~ How much does it cost to build a BG machine?

‘Brown’s Gas Book 2’ and it’s Resources are all you really need < $50.  I do suggest getting other support material but it is optional.https://www.eagle-research.com/cms/store/browns-gas Cost to build (from the plans in Brown' Gas Book 2) is about $500 plus $1 for each liter per hour desired.  This varies somewhat depending on your skills and resources. The 'Brown's Gas Book 2' and associated Resources book tells you what need to design a BG electrolyzer to fit your needs and where to get everything you need to self-build a machine. Your self-build machine (from my plans) will out perform ALL commercial machines currently on the market.

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Is a HyCO 2A kit available?

A. We do not sell HyCO 2A components at this time or for the forseeable future.  We used to but we just don’t have enough people to support (purchase, manufacture, inventory, etc) the whole range of products that ER has developed, so lots of billion dollar ideas are just sitting on the shelf.
To solve this problem we are developing manufacturing courses to train people how to make, install and sell these products.
In the meantime, you can build-your-own HyCO system from the instructions in the HyCO 2A Manual.
We recommend you to subscribe to our eNewsletter (using your eStore account) to be informed when we make special short production runs of HyCO 2A kits and when the manufacturing courses will be available.
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When do I add the HyCO 2A system?

A. For carbureted vehicles, add the HyCO 2A system only after you get the basic Carburetor Enhancer working.
Often, people find the basic Carburetor Enhancer gives sufficient mileage gains and the pollution reduction for their needs.  In any case, the HyCO 2A won’t give any gains until you have a functional Carburetor Enhancer.
The HyCO 2A, installed with the Carburetor Enhancer, with it’s electronic upgrade, will often double the mileage of most vehicles (from original mileage). So an example of 10 mpg is now 20 mpg.
For Electronic Fuel Injection vehicles, add the EFIE (on each oxygen sensor before the catalytic converter) and a MAP enhancer (on your MAP and or MAF sensor) before installing the HyCO 2A.   With Fuel Injected vehicles, the gain is often 50% over original mileage.  So 10 mpg would be 15 mpg.
Here is a chart, to help you choose between the HyCO 2A and HyZor technologies.
Here is a calculator to find out how much money you’ll save.Adjust the percentage to fit whatever technology you are using.https://www.eagle-research.com/fuelsav/FiveYrCalc.php 

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Why do some HyCO 2DT Manual details seem to be missing?

A. The original HyCO 2DT Manual ‘as written’ was to be the Installation and Operation Manual for our early 1990s version of the HyCO 2DT.  We designed the Manual to be included when selling fully assembled HyCO 2DTs, so construction details were not needed.
Because we did not, for many years, have a fully assembled HyCO 2DT; we updated the HyCO 2DT Manual to include construction details you’ll need as the (now) last two pages in each book, converting it into a ‘How-To’ book for DIY enthusiasts.
The update details items like the hole sizes in the ball.  
We do sell the HyCO 2DT ball, to help customers who are building their own HyCO 2DT.
We now have fully assembled HyCO 2DTs for sale (subject to inventory).

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Can the HyCO 2DT be used with bio-Diesel?

A. YES!
Bio-Diesel is totally compatible with diesel engines and with the HyCO 2DT.  
The HyCO 2DT can even be used to add water, alcohol, gasoline, WVO, used engine oil, etc., to turbocharged engines, resulting in further combustion efficiency increases.  
I’ll be releasing these surprising details to HyCO 2DT customers via the HyCO 2DT online Resources.

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Can the HyCO 2DT be used on any turbocharged diesel engine?

A. YES! In fact, power plants and boats/ships are excellent applications for the HyCO 2DT because they normally operate under constant load (turbochargers activated all the time).
And the HyCO 2DT will work on any turbocharged engine that is fed with gasoline or diesel fuel (not NG or Propane).  The HyCO 2DT can even be used to add water to the combustion mix, to significantly increase combustion efficiency.
Water Injection is further enhanced with HyZor Technology (Brown’s Gas for vehicles).